There's blood all over the walls.
This is a nightmare.
He's crazy.
I don't feel good.
I hate being in my home.
I think that it can cause death.
We did mess around with the Ouija board.
Somebody is doing Ouija board
and has somehow summoned these things.
You're busted. Forget about it.
Never seen such interaction
between a living person and a shadow person before.
This is not a good situation.
My name is Amy Allan.
There's death here.
Don't wanna go down there.
I see dead people.
They hide in the walls and they watch.
I speak to dead people...
She's definitely a serial killer.
...and they speak to me.
She's going to torture them.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.
They were all murdered.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.
So is this the only time you've been physically attacked?
And I know every person, every house has secrets.
There's no question in my mind that he was talking about Satan.
It's my job to reveal them.
Who do you think possessed you?
But Steve and I never speak...
We never communicate during an investigation.
...until the very end.
Well, you're not gonna want to see this.
When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...
Hell, no.
Or time to get out.
Everyone is in jeopardy.
I'm in Berthoud, Colorado.
It's a small town an hour north of Denver.
I got a call from a woman named Rebecca.
Now, she sounded hysterical, says whatever's in the house
is killing her from the inside-out,
and there's nothing she can do about it
because it follows her wherever she goes.
I really hope we can help her out.
Before Amy arrives,
I clear the area of any leading information --
photographs, personal items,
and even religion statues need to be covered or removed.
When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk.
I don't feel good.
I usually open myself to communicate with the dead
a few hours before I get to a location,
but tonight, I'm very sick and vulnerable...
...so I'm opening inside the house.
I'm, like, seeing blood.
There's blood all over the walls.
It looks very dreamlike.
This woman's screaming and crying,
and this is a nightmare.
You know, Rebecca, I talk to a lot of scared people,
and when we spoke, I can hear the desperation in your voice.
I hate being in my home.
You look upset already.
- You okay? - Yeah.
Okay.
I got to ask a question.
I mean, why don't you just leave?
I feel like whatever is here is attached to me.
Whatever it is, it's going to follow me.
Okay, So now, do you live here alone?
I live with my mom, and I have a boyfriend
that frequently spends the night here.
How long have you lived here?
I grew up here, and I've lived here
off and on throughout my adult life.
Your family bought this house?
We built it in 1984.
I mean, when did the activity start getting really bad?
It got bad about 2 years ago.
What do you think is causing all of this?
A lot of fracking started in this area.
Is that close by?
- It's very close... - Okay.
...like, within a mile.
Now, you guys have been here over 30 years.
Do you know any history in the area?
There was a deadly car crash
just across the streets about 12 years ago.
All right. So I'll look into that.
Anybody that passed away in the house, stuff like that?
My dad passed away here about 6 months ago.
- He was 82. - Okay.
What did he pass from?
Kidney failure.
Now did he pass away in the house?
Not in the house. He left the house in an ambulance
and died about 2 weeks later in hospice.
This was my dad probably about 15...years ago?
Okay.
And this is a picture of my dad and me.
What can you tell me about your father?
He suffered for a long time with depression.
He was affected by something here.
He used to talk about people coming to visit.
So you think he was suffering from, like, paranormal
that was going on here and didn't know how to deal with it?
I think so.
Have you done anything to combat what you've been through?
I've had people come to do cleansings, exorcism.
We had a demonologist come out.
That's quite a list right there.
And nothing has helped?
Just for a short period of time.
I know you have a lot going on, Rebecca,
but give me a list of what's happening.
Hearing noises, seeing weird things.
It's become very violent,
and I think my personality has changed.
Okay, in what way?
I used to be really easygoing, very happy all the time,
and now I'm filled with anxiety and overly sensitive,
kind of turned into a...
tension between me and my mom,
tension between me and my boyfriend.
And what do you hope we can do for you?
I'd like to be comfortable in my home.
I'd like to not be getting hurt anymore.
Yeah.
The only thing about this area is the, like, the energy chaos.
This is all, like, living energy stuff, you know?
A male and a female arguing.
The energy here is very, um,
hectic and chaotic.
It's too much noise.
Okay. So, Rebecca, what's going on in here?
Coming into the hall,
I felt something push me on my left shoulder,
so I turned to see
and just so quickly
went backwards over this,
and left me with bruises and scratches on my back.
I mean, that's -- that's a pretty high opening.
That had to be a pretty strong push. Yep.
Thank God there's no glass in between here.
Yeah. All right, so what else is going on?
Just last night, I was walking down the stairs.
Something pushed me from behind,
and I fell down the stairs, hurt my shoulder.
I mean, I hate to be an ass,
but, I mean, are you clumsy at all?
Not clumsy enough to make stuff like this happen.
And you wonder why your anxiety is through the roof.
I just feel like a walking target
all the time.
Just...I felt sexually assaulted in my bed.
Okay. All right. Has this happened more than once?
No, just one time.
It's a lot more violent than we thought.
Okay. I'm really glad I took this case.
Thank you.
I'm seeing a shadow person in here.
I think it's a real shadow person,
and I see it attacking the person in here.
Usually, shadow people are just all, like,
suck the life out of you.
This is, like, physically assaulting this person.
Yeah, I see a female with brown hair.
She's probably...
I don't know, in her 30s, average build.
Like, I see a person laying.
The shadow person is, like, on its hands and feet,
and it's huge.
It becomes huge, and the person's like...
like, underneath it.
You know, Rebecca, after everything you've told me so far,
I'm afraid to even ask.
What else is going on?
I have seen a black creature, like,
with lots of long tentacles all over it.
Shiny black,
no face to speak of.
How big of a mass are we talking about? Like this?
Probably 4 feet.
You on any medication or anything? No.
So nothing that's making you hallucinate?
No.
Okay. Anything else going on in here?
I've gotten scratches and bruises in bed.
Okay. What kind of scratches and bruises are we talking about?
Well, I have some pictures.
Here's a picture of some scratches.
Jeez.
I see there's blood here.
I mean, I've seen cats in the house.
Cats come into bed with you guys?
Cats go in their own room at night.
All right. Anything else?
One time, I was laying in bed,
and I felt like I was punched in the face,
and it was so hard that I had a tooth knocked out.
Which tooth was it?
Um, this one, right here.
It's insane. I feel crazy sometimes.
You have a tough go here.
There's a lot of interaction between this shadow person
and this living person.
This is a pretty much every night thing,
dragging them off the bed,
being pushed, pushed down to the floor,
trying to take them through the walls,
which doesn't work if you're alive.
Wouldn't be surprised if there would be bruises
from being grabbed and moved and dropped.
I've never seen such interaction between a living person
and a shadow person before.
I'm feeling frustration from the shadow person,
almost like the shadow person
thinks this person is another shadow person
and isn't doing what they're supposed to be doing.
This is very odd behavior from an actual shadow person.
So would you say this person is in danger?
Yes. I think that...
maybe the shadow person will figure out a way
to make this person disappear.
So, Heidi, I know you're friends with Rebecca.
How long you guys been friends?
Since I can remember.
You told me you didn't want to do the interview inside.
What was that all about?
I recently lost my husband,
and I'm kind of in a vulnerable place,
and I just want to protect myself
from taking something home with me.
So, obviously, you think there's something in the house.
- Yeah. - Have you had any experiences?
- I have. - Okay. Let's talk about them.
When we were little, we used to see a guy
walking around in her barn sometimes.
Okay. So how do you know it wasn't some guy in the barn?
- We would go in and look. - Okay.
Could they have been hiding when he saw you coming?
No. There was really nowhere to hide.
Okay. So anything else?
There was one other thing that was sort of
like an impish little creature.
It was black and white and had sort of, like, long pointy head.
Describe him to me like it's a perpetrator from a crime.
- Foot and a half tall, maybe. - Okay.
Small mouth, sharp teeth...
...big eyes.
So like a little monster, really?
Yeah, kind of. Well, let me ask you a question.
Do you think your friend is in danger?
I do.
I'm hoping you guys can help her.
I see a demon.
Can you describe him?
There's no, like, real body,
but it has legs and arms.
It slithers, mostly...
...and it has a fat trunk that's really long,
and it slithers like a snake on that.
Its head is kind of like a...triangular.
It has, like, some kind of ear things or something,
and it has a weird, like, snout and big yellow eyes.
I think that we've got a problem.
You know, Linda, I was talking to Rebecca.
You gotta be worried about her.
I'm extremely worried about her.
I don't know how much more she can handle.
So, Linda, I understand that your husband recently passed.
Do you think he's here?
I feel he's here, but I feel it's not a negative influence.
All right, as far as experiences, what about you?
Every time that I sit in the chair behind me,
I feel like someone is sitting on my chest
and I cannot catch my breath.
Okay. Listen.
I know it's a lot to ask, but can you sit in the chair?
I'm just curious if it would happen
with me being in the room with you.
Of course.
I don't feel good.
Is it the same pressure feeling?
Yes.
It is.
This quick?
- Okay. All right. - It is.
All right. Come on. Come on.
Sorry about that. I just wanted to see. You okay?
- Yeah. - Okay. I'm sorry.
- It's okay. - You feel better now?
- Yeah. I do. - Okay.
That's why I don't spend any time in here.
Anything else?
At night, we hear very definite scratching
in the outside wall.
You got wildlife all over the place.
We do.
Pest control people came out and checked everything.
They even went under the house.
Now you've lived here a very long time,
but I understand that this stuff got pretty intense
over the last couple of years.
All right, so what do you think changed?
Rebecca's boyfriend dabbled in Ouija boards,
and I really wonder if that opened a door
to some negative occurrences here.
Well, we're here, so hopefully,
we'll get some answers for you guys.
I hope so.
Okay. So this is weird.
The demon is, like, storming in the house,
and it's, like, making a lot of noise and ruckus.
I was being told that a living person here
has collected this thing.
- The demon? - Yes.
I just assumed it came from the land, you know?
But, mnh-mnh, no, somebody here...
I'm getting a male.
What the...are they doing, making a demon come on up?
Something is gonna happen,
like a murder.
So, Mike, talking to Rebecca,
I mean, she's going through hell here.
You gotta be worried about her.
I'm sickened by it.
It just makes you feel helpless.
Now Rebecca told me that no matter where she goes,
this thing follows her.
Now have you seen this happen at your place?
Absolutely.
This one time, she was choked.
She's been thrown against my closet door.
She's been thrown into my bathtub.
She's been thrown off the back of my couch.
Actually, I've got, like, three journals like this,
just account after account
of things that have happened to her.
Now when I talked to Linda, her mom.
She's been here since 1984.
And she said none of this violent...started
until you came into the picture.
- Absolutely. Yeah. - So...
Well, I mean, we did mess around with a Ouija board,
and we've went on a couple ghost tours.
So you only did those two things, and that's it?
Yeah, Ouija board, EVP, and, yeah, ghost tour.
- So that's three things. - Three things, yeah.
Now you understand, if you we sit down with Amy,
she's going to want to know everything.
And if you're not telling me all of it,
it's not going to help our case here.
We have contacted a demonologist,
a Reiki Master, and then another psychic.
All right, so there were other things that went on here.
The truth is, it doesn't matter where Becca goes.
She's a bright light and she attracts a lot of bugs.
Until she figures out how to, you know, believe in herself
and how to protect herself, things aren't gonna change.
I was being told
somebody is doing Ouija board
and has somehow summoned these things.
The demon has a direct relationship
with a living male here
who accidentally brought it back.
Do you know when this happened?
Recently, maybe going on, like, 50 years.
Do you know what it wants?
It can make them physically ill
or want to kill themselves.
You know, I'm gonna start my investigation
with Rebecca's lead about the deadly car accident.
Now, for some reason, the local cops don't want
to talk to me about it.
So I'm heading back to meet a local journalist
who says this tragedy could've definitely been prevented.
Okay, so this accident, what can you tell me about it?
It happened in 2005, May 25.
There was a carload of four teenagers.
They were coming up the road this way.
Okay.
Ben Moden, he was 17 years old. He was driving.
Now was he from this area, this kid, Moden? Or...
- Yes. - He was. Okay.
Who else was in the car with him?
18-year-old Kurtis Soeby, 17-year-old Brenden McBride,
and then a 15-year-old girl named Shawntae Taylor.
Okay, so describe the accident for me. What happened?
Ben and his friends were coming up the road this way,
going at a good rate of speed
A pickup truck was coming this way.
Ben blew right through this stop sign.
He was trying to beat the pickup truck.
Okay, so how bad was this wreck?
It was awful, and debris was found hundreds of feet
around the crash site. - Wow.
How many people died in this accident?
One at the scene, Shawntae Taylor, the girl.
And then Kurtis Soeby,
he was airlifted to a hospital in Denver
and died 3 days later of his injuries.
All right. So what about this kid Moden?
Did they charge him?
They charged him with several misdemeanors
'cause he was a minor when he was arrested at the hospital.
At the sentencing, he actually said
that he wished it had been him
instead of his friends who had died.
Ultimately, he got his wish.
How so?
He was done with house arrest in July of 2006.
Okay.
And then just 3 months later, he was driving with a friend,
21-year-old Joseph Darr, 4:00 in the morning,
blasting down the highway, loses control,
flips it several times, both ejected from the car,
neither one wearing a seat belt, again.
And Joseph walked away with serious injuries,
but Ben was killed from traumatic head injury.
In his autopsy, they found cocaine, marijuana, and ecstasy.
Well, maybe if he would've done some time in the first accident,
he'd be alive today.
I'm seeing an angry male,
and there was something wrong with him.
Basically, he's just...crazy.
I don't know what made him crazy, though.
He hurts himself and would hurt other people.
They locked him up.
His face is all smooshed up.
Do you know why he's like that?
His face is like that...
'cause he's in pain.
Rebecca says she thinks fracking in the area
may have stirred things up.
Now I don't know about that, but she got me thinking.
If her water supply got contaminated,
could it be making her sick and causing her to hallucinate?
I'm heading over to meet an environmental scientist
to see if that's even possible.
My clients here have been experiencing
some serious paranormal activity for about 2 years.
I don't expect you to get into the whole paranormal side of things,
but they said it was the time fracking started in the area.
What exactly is fracking?
It's a process by which you drill into the Earth,
and you use high-pressure water
and a cocktail compound of chemicals
to bring oil out of solid rock in the ground.
They're fracking pretty close here, from what I understand.
They are, so about 100 yards from here is Weld County,
and there are 15,000 fracking wells in Weld County alone.
Now, have there been any leaks around here that you know of?
Sure. Within the county, there was a 28,000-gallon oil spill
associated with fracking in the past year.
Okay. So if they're drinking contaminated water
for an extended period of time,
what's the symptoms gonna be like?
So you're going to see headaches, anxiety,
dizziness, delirium,
and for more extended periods of time
and in higher doses of chemicals,
you'd see things like cancer and potentially even death.
So it'd probably be a good idea for me to test the water?
I would certainly recommend that.
Okay.
I'm seeing that demon again.
I saw this thing
in the drainage ditch outside.
It inhales water, and it comes inside,
and it'll go on the person and then vomit into their back,
and then the evil is always in their backs.
This causes the living here
to either get sick
or kill themselves.
The person then can spread it to other living people.
- Just by being around them? - Yes.
Just how sick can it make people?
I think that it can cause death.
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So far, I've got a client under attack,
on our property near the site of a deadly car crash
that killed two teenagers,
but I want to see if there's anything else.
Searching through old records,
I find an article about
a farmhand who was brutally murdered
right next door to my client's property.
You know, I got a local crime writer
to look into this murder for me.
Now, she told me the case took a big twist
when the local judge made a surprising announcement.
Well, Chris, thanks for meeting with me.
- I appreciate that. - Sure.
Before we get to the homicide, where exactly did it happen?
It happened on an 800-acre farm
right next door to your client's property.
The farm was owned by a man named Louis Clinton Rockwell
who was an attorney who lived in Denver.
Now, Chris, I know in the article it said
it involved farmhands.
All right. What do we know about them?
These guys were Swedish immigrants,
and they lived in a barn on the property.
They're young, single, sort of drifters that come in
and work in the summer and then leave.
Okay, Chris, so do me a favor. Let's go through the homicide.
What happened?
Well, on the night of November 11, 1889,
the farmhands were in the barn. - Okay.
And they were down in the lounge area, drinking.
And about 8:00, one of them, Albert Martin,
decided he was going to go upstairs and go to bed,
and the rest of them stayed down and continued to get hammered.
Okay, which guys like that are gonna do 'cause,
you know, there's nothing else to do there. Right. Right.
And later on in the evening, Elmer Robb, one of the men,
who was a really big guy,
decided that he wanted the others to fist-fight
for his amusement.
He was badgering them and threatening them,
and finally, one person did agree,
and so he decided to go upstairs
and get Martin to come down and fight the guy.
All right. So this guy is already in bed.
How did they react to that?
At that point, Martin, feeling kind of threatened, got up,
grabbed a.32-caliber revolver, and went downstairs with him.
And he feels that he's threatened.
Robb's a big guy.
So he pulls out his.32-caliber
and shoots him three times in the chest.
- And he kills him? - Yes.
That's funny, though. You mentioned on the phone,
there was a surprising decision by the judge.
Right.
Well, the sheriff felt that they had the guy dead to right,
so they wanted to charge him with murder.
- Okay. - But the judge totally disagreed
and refused to arraign him and let him go.
All right, so it sounds like
the judge thought it was self-defense.
Right. Robb's sort of a jerk.
He probably deserved what he got, really.
There's, like, a couple of men out here,
and they're dead,
and they're not good.
I don't even know what they're doing here.
They're not from here.
So how many are there?
I think there's three, but there could be more.
Do you know when this is from?
I'd say in the last hundred years.
There'll all white men.
They're probably ranging from age 18 to 40.
There's a skinny one.
There's a built one.
I don't know how they died.
I hear one was executed.
I know they killed somebody.
I think that they would cause a lot of activity
in that building.
I do think that the living have seen them.
They feel aggressive.
They feel territorial, and they don't want to leave,
and they feel safe here.
It's like, "Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out."
They don't like anybody in here.
No. They don't like it.
Mnh-mnh.
I saw several entities during my walk,
but two of them had me the most concerned.
First, the demon.
Its body is like a slug that kind of
has an upside-down triangle head shape,
and the mouth was more like a big hole.
Next, I described the shadow person
I saw attacking a living woman.
He was on top of her in a bed,
and he had his arms on either side of her
and his legs on either side of her legs,
and he's got her, like, pegged.
Is this what you saw?
Yes.
Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,
we're ready to reveal our findings to each other
and our clients for the first time.
Now, Amy, we've done over 125 cases together,
and we've met a lot of people going through hell,
but Rebecca's case is one of the worst.
This is her mom, Linda.
She lives in this house.
This is her boyfriend, Mike, who stays here on occasion.
They're all experiencing things, but they're worried
that whatever is here is trying to kill Rebecca.
Now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys,
I'll ask her to describe her walk for us.
The first thing that I need to discuss really quickly
is that I've been very sick,
and when you're sick and you're doing this kind of work,
you're extremely vulnerable.
I waited until I got here to actually open,
but once I did open, one of the first things I got
was a lot of negative energy from the living here.
I was hearing a lot of different people arguing.
There was definitely a male and a female that was
the top and most consistent
with the arguing.
Now, Rebecca, you guys have been fighting, right?
- Yeah. - Tell Amy about that.
Just fight a lot for sometimes...
seems no really good reason.
Why is that?
I feel like my personality has changed.
I feel very anxious all the time.
I'm...probably not a lot of fun to be around.
- Interesting. - She gets upset.
She gets depressed, you know,
just has this negative self-image.
Now, Mom, is that her?
Didn't used to be her, no, but that's how she is, now.
Okay. So what else?
There are two separate entities here
that are really your problem.
The first one is the demon.
When I first encountered it, it was slithering like a snake.
It does have arms and legs,
but they're extremely underdeveloped.
Its face is extremely triangular.
Rebecca, do me a favor and tell her
what you described to me upstairs.
I saw kind of a shiny black kind of a hovering blob,
but it had tentacles coming off of it.
Now when I spoke to your girlfriend Heidi,
she talked about a black-and-white figure
with strange long ears
that would follow her around when she was kid.
Interesting. Okay.
Do you think what Heidi and Rebecca saw as kids
was this demon thing?
I actually did have a sketch done of it.
This is interesting.
This reminds me of what your girlfriend was telling me.
Ooh.
It looks like what Heidi would describe, with the long ears.
This thing is in your house now, apparently.
I almost don't have words for something like that.
It's just...
it's almost impossible to comprehend.
So I saw this thing in a drainage ditch outside.
It was sucking up mud and all this crap from the ditch
through its nose and go inside,
and it would vomit out this black stuff
that it had inhaled into the person's back.
What I got for living people is that it can make them
very, very ill,
or it can make them have suicidal thoughts,
and the thing that I thought maybe
that it had possibly killed somebody already.
You mentioned something about potential suicide?
I came across something in my research
that might be important.
In 2005, there was a deadly car accident
right up on the corner here, just a few hundred feet away.
Four teenagers were driving in a sedan.
They felt as if the driver was being suicidal
from the way he drove.
The driver, Ben Moden, was reckless and blew right through
that stop sign at the end of the road here.
They were T-boned by an oncoming pickup truck.
Now, this was a huge crash, and debris went everywhere.
None of the kids were wearing seatbelts.
One of the boys was ejected from the car.
He died 3 days later at a hospital.
A 15-year-old girl named Shawntae Taylor
was killed at the scene,
and the driver, Ben Moden,
he wound up getting sentenced to one year's house arrest
because he was a minor at the time.
He had no drugs or alcohol in his system,
so no one knows why he ran the stop sign.
Unfortunately, we can't ask him.
That's because he's dead.
A year later, Ben Moden was in another accident.
He and a friend were driving fast down the highway
at 4:00 in the morning.
Again, this kid Ben Moden was driving.
They weren't wearing seat belts.
Ben lost control of the car and flipped several times.
Both guys were ejected from the car.
Ben was killed.
I could be wrong, but it seemed like
he had a death wish, this kid.
Just a sad situation.
So I don't know if this is connected or not,
but you mentioned this demon thing likes to drink water
from the drainage ditch.
- Is that right? - Yes.
Rebecca, you told me you thought activity picked up
after they started fracking here a couple of years ago.
Sometimes, fracking can contaminate
peoples' the drinking water.
Now, I talked to an environmental expert
who says that exposure to these chemicals
could cause some of the experiences you're having.
But when I had your water tested, it came back normal.
Okay.
Now you said this thing makes people sick.
Linda's husband, and Rebecca's father, died about 6 months ago.
- Yes. - Okay. - I'm sorry.
I have a couple of photos of him here, one with Rebecca.
You said it could cause suicidal thoughts,
and my dad was hospitalized at one time for attempted suicide.
Really?
He struggled with depression.
He would just say to me, "I had some visitors today,
"and they came to see me,
but I know they weren't really here."
Could this thing have caused him to want to commit suicide?
Yes.
So this demon, it was accidentally picked up
by a male who lived here.
And I got that this was recent, like in the last 50 years.
Well, there's some other stuff you should know.
Mike and Rebecca have done
a ton of paranormal things in the past.
You name it, they've tried it.
I want you to explain to her what's going on,
what you guys did,
and how the stuff spiked after you two met.
Well, it was ill-advised, but we, you know,
decided to have a couple sessions with a Ouija board.
List the other things you've done.
We've reached out to an exorcist,
a demonologist.
We've worked with a, like, a Reiki Master,
and we did a ghost tour on my birthday.
Now, Linda, I know you don't like
all the...they're doing, right? - No. I don't.
I don't feel that doors should be opened
when you have a choice not to.
So did Mike and Rebecca bring this demon here?
No.
This could be possibly your husband
because it wasn't something he was looking for.
- It was accidentally picked up. - Okay.
So it sounds like it wasn't Mike and Rebecca
fooling around with the stuff.
Not for that.
Okay. For what?
For something else.
So you're not off the hook.
No, you're not.
The biggest threat in the house
to you, specifically, is the shadow man.
So what I saw was a male with a Ouija board,
and that is what caused the shadow person
to come into this realm.
And I saw it fixated on a female in the room upstairs,
to the left.
That's Rebecca's room.
Some of the specific things that I saw it doing to you
was dragging you off the bed,
that there would be bruises that you would maybe wake up with
because it's trying to pick you up and drag you through walls,
and that it's happening pretty much every night.
You remember when I said
Rebecca was going through hell here, right?
You pretty much hit on why.
I get scratches and bruises.
Look at this. Look at these bruises.
Wow.
Feel like I've been held down in my bed.
I had my tooth knocked out.
I was laying in bed and I went to sit up,
and as I was sitting up, I felt, like, a punch in my face.
All right. Now this is the weird part, though.
This stuff doesn't just happen here.
When you go to Mike's house, it's happened.
And she just got, basically, thrown off her feet
and into my closet door.
There might be some jealousy stuff here
because you're dealing with a shadow person
who believes that she's a shadow person.
That's why it's so mean and so aggressive with you.
It wants you to go home with it.
I know you weren't intending to do something like that.
I mean, are you feeling guilty about it?
Yeah. I kind of am, and it really wasn't even my idea
to do the Ouija board.
So you're blaming Rebecca for this?
She started seeing this black shadow
before the Ouija board.
- You buying that? - All I know is what I see,
and what I saw was a man with a Ouija board,
and then this thing was there.
You're busted, cuz. Forget about it.
Another thing I saw this shadow person
doing to you was really horrifying,
and I actually did have a sketch done of it.
Gee whiz.
That's why I don't sleep at night.
I didn't want to bring it up, but there was some other issues
you had in the bedroom with this thing.
I felt like one night, I was sexually assaulted,
but there was nothing there.
I just can't imagine what she's going through.
We just have to fix it.
What the hell does this thing want with Rebecca?
Well, it wants to take her home.
So if, god forbid, this was to happen, where would she wind up?
She would be missing.
He could accidentally kill you
trying to get you to his reality.
Now, Rebecca, when we spoke the other day,
I knew this was going to be a rough night for you,
but I had no idea it was going to be this bad.
Now, I don't know what Amy is going to say,
but I hope she has a solution for you,
because nobody deserves to go through the abuse
you're going through.
With that, I'll turn it over to Amy and see what she's got.
It's a very unique situation
because real shadow people are negative
and nearly impossible to get rid of.
So you are, unfortunately, in an abusive relationship
that you can't get out of.
So you are going to have to implement
different protection measures to try to survive.
Something will work for a month, and then it'll stop,
and then you're going to have to employ a different measure.
What are we looking for?
Because I want to help with this.
I can give you a bag of stuff that you can use.
You know, putting black salt around your bed at night.
Maybe it'll work for a few nights,
and then you go to, say,
putting brimstone or sulfur at your door,
but it's always going to be something that's temporary.
What you can hope is that one day,
he's gonna figure it out and he's going to figure out
how to get himself back to his realm.
I can't get rid of him.
I don't want to live the rest of my life with him.
I tell you, this is a heartbreaking case.
I really don't have words for it.
I was just so hoping that we could deal
with the shadow person.
Unfortunately, it's like you're going to be experimenting.
That's all you can do with shadow people.
What about this guy?
Now that guy, you can do something about.
Find a local tribe and a local person from that tribe
who is either a practicing medicine person or a shaman.
That person can come here
and can protect your entire property line.
Are you going to do that?
Yeah.
That's probably fairly easy for us to...
...get a hold of them.
I think it would be a huge first step
because I think it might allow her to be healthier.
And building her confidence level.
I mean, how do you feel about knowing everything now?
It's pretty hard to put into words.
I was so hopeful that we really...
would get something more positive
to resolve it, but we'll resolve it.
It'll just take work.
You know what you're dealing with now, I think.
I know what to do now.
I really hope Rebecca contacts a shaman
to banish the demon that's been terrorizing her family.
Once he's gone, she can focus on protecting herself
from the shadow person tormenting her.
And hopefully, one day, it will leave on its own,
giving Rebecca some peace.